| --- Log opened Wed Jul 30 11:06:54 2008 | ||
| * f13 | 11:06 | |
| wwoods | I don't want to take real long with this, since we've got plenty of Alpha testin' to do | 11:07 |
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| -!- wwoods changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora QA | F10Alpha | 11:08 | |
| wwoods | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestResults/Fedora10Install/Alpha | 11:08 |
| wwoods | there's the current test results | 11:08 |
| rdieter | hi | 11:08 |
| wwoods | rdieter: hiya | 11:09 |
| wwoods | f13: is there a public alpha tree/repo? | 11:09 |
| wwoods | rdieter: did we end up pulling in KDE 4.1 for alpha? is there anything that needs special attention? | 11:10 |
| rdieter | I asked f13 to do that (4.1), but not sure if anything happened there. no special attention required. | 11:11 |
| f13 | wwoods: not yet. the repos I was making I found a flaw in them, I'm making a new public alpha repo | 11:11 |
| f13 | rdieter: did you ever get me the list of things to tag? | 11:12 |
| f13 | I think I forgot about that yseterday | 11:12 |
| rdieter | f13: I'll email you a list (thx) | 11:12 |
| f13 | it might be a bit late.. | 11:13 |
| rdieter | ok, no biggie, just a nice-thing-to-have(tm) | 11:13 |
| wwoods | if we end up respinning, will we pull that in? or is that too much churn? | 11:14 |
| rdieter | churn++ | 11:14 |
| rdieter | :_) | 11:14 |
| wwoods | any other SIG reps here? any alpha-specific stuff? | 11:14 |
| f13 | wwoods: we'll, I've already started the mash for today, we get basically one of those a day. If we delay longer, it gets harder to hit our release date | 11:15 |
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| wwoods | having KDE 4.1 in the alpha would look nice for marketing/PR, but that's not worth wrecking the schedule over, I think | 11:16 |
| wwoods | so when's the last chance for respinning and when do we need the go/no go | 11:16 |
| f13 | thursday | 11:16 |
| f13 | need to have valid mash output by then for making the trees and starting syncing | 11:16 |
| wwoods | so, tomorrow. | 11:17 |
| wwoods | and when will images be public? the following tuesday? | 11:18 |
| f13 | yeah, which means if we pull in 4.1 and it breaks everything.... | 11:18 |
| rdieter | not worth it then, imo, it'll be there for the next test release. | 11:18 |
| wwoods | fair 'nuff | 11:19 |
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| wwoods | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=446445&hide_resolved=1 | 11:20 |
| wwoods | f10alpha tracker bug | 11:20 |
| wwoods | moving bug 453678 to f10blocker - we've got a workaround | 11:21 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=453678 high, high, ---, Peter Jones, ASSIGNED , booting with encrypted root fails unless you have plymouth installed | 11:21 |
| wwoods | bug 442061 is a blocker for live images | 11:22 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=442061 low, low, ---, William Jon McCann, ASSIGNED , graphical apps unable to start as root in user session | 11:22 |
| wwoods | apparently there's a fix on the way? | 11:22 |
| wwoods | it's a gdm bug, I guess | 11:22 |
| f13 | brb | 11:22 |
| wwoods | f13: we'll need to keep an eye on that one. I hadn't realized we might need to pull a new gdm. | 11:23 |
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| f13 | wwoods: "that one" ? | 11:23 |
| wwoods | f13: 442061, the aforementioned blocker for live images | 11:24 |
| f13 | unable to start as root? | 11:24 |
| f13 | why would anybody be logging in as root on the live images? | 11:24 |
| jeremy | f13: no, it's that apps can't run as any user other than the one who started the x session | 11:25 |
| wwoods | no, read the bug - it breaks consolehelper | 11:25 |
| jeremy | which means that anything using consolehelper (like, say, installing) doesn't work | 11:25 |
| wwoods | so you can't run system-config-* or anaconda... yeah | 11:25 |
| f13 | ok, do we have a fixed package yet? | 11:26 |
| wwoods | jmccann said he was testing a fix 2 days ago | 11:26 |
| wwoods | don't see him on IRC anywhere | 11:27 |
| wwoods | we'll come back to that in #fedora-qa later, I'm sure | 11:29 |
| wwoods | Bug 452799 - segfaults with encrypted root + plymouth | 11:30 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=452799 low, low, ---, Ray Strode, ASSIGNED , segfault in libdevmapper booting with encrypted root + plymouth | 11:30 |
| wwoods | IIRC pjones was talking about building a fix for that yesterday | 11:30 |
| wwoods | looks like mkinitrd-6.0.56-1.fc10 is supposed to fix that | 11:31 |
| wwoods | perhaps requiring plymouth-0.5.0-6.fc10 as well | 11:31 |
| wwoods | we should ping halfline/pjones and see if those are needed for alpha | 11:31 |
| wwoods | aand bug 457144 - no menu on media - I think is supposed to be fixed with the new anaconda build | 11:31 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=457144 low, low, ---, Anaconda Maintenance Team, MODIFIED , No graphical menu from isolinux on F10Alpha media | 11:31 |
| halfline | wwoods: well the fix isn't tested yet | 11:32 |
| halfline | wwoods: and there are already release notes mentioning the problem | 11:32 |
| halfline | wwoods: if the alpha is really supposed to be a no freeze snapshot of where we stand with a low bar of expectations then I don't think it really matters if we get the fix in for the alpha | 11:33 |
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| wwoods | 'kay | 11:34 |
| f13 | <pjones> f13: you want mkinitrd-6.0.56-1.fc10 and the plymouth halfline is maybe building nowish, I think. | 11:34 |
| f13 | so we do need a newer mkinitrd than I'm mashing right now | 11:34 |
| jlaska | halfline: how difficult is the fix for that issue? | 11:34 |
| jlaska | is that something that won't be ready in time | 11:34 |
| wwoods | mostly I'm concerned with making sure people can get the thing onto their systems, if they want to test | 11:34 |
| f13 | (tagged mkinitrd, I'll populate the bleed repo with it shortly) | 11:34 |
| halfline | jlaska: in theory the fix is done, just need to push a build to make the requires deps right | 11:34 |
| wwoods | we don't need every fix in the world but things that keep people from booting or being able to get updates.. are bad | 11:34 |
| halfline | you tagged mkinitrd? | 11:35 |
| f13 | yes | 11:35 |
| wwoods | or things that make it so you can't install. | 11:35 |
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| halfline | well this doesn't prevent people from booting | 11:35 |
| halfline | it only prevents people from booting if they mistype their password | 11:35 |
| jlaska | halfline: aaah that's right ... and you've already release noted that iir | 11:36 |
| jlaska | c | 11:36 |
| halfline | yes | 11:36 |
| halfline | tagging the mkinitrd is effectly pulling in the untested fix | 11:36 |
| f13 | Ok, there is a new gdm build to test, 2.23.1.0.2008.07.28.1 | 11:36 |
| halfline | so if you're going to tag it you should test it | 11:36 |
| halfline | and if it doesn't work untag it | 11:36 |
| f13 | halfline: that's typically how we do things. | 11:36 |
| f13 | (: | 11:37 |
| f13 | maintainer told me we needed $foo, I tagged $foo | 11:37 |
| f13 | if $foo breaks, I beat maintainer over the head | 11:37 |
| halfline | but pjones didn't say we needed it did he? | 11:37 |
| f13 | <f13> <pjones> f13: you want mkinitrd-6.0.56-1.fc10 and the plymouth halfline is maybe building nowish, I think. | 11:37 |
| halfline | that was in response to you asking what would be needed to get the untested fix :-) | 11:38 |
| f13 | did I say anything about "untested" | 11:38 |
| f13 | ? | 11:38 |
| halfline | no, that was me | 11:38 |
| f13 | so while these word games are fun, we have a freaking alpha to get out. | 11:38 |
| halfline | right. i personally wouldn't have tagged it just because it's an unknown | 11:39 |
| halfline | but meh, it probably works | 11:39 |
| wwoods | yeah if the *only* bug fixed by those updates is plymouth crashing when you mistype your password on encrypted root filesystems | 11:39 |
| wwoods | I'd leave it for post-alpha | 11:39 |
| f13 | halfline: you personally have a lot more knowledge about the build than I do. I asked what we needed to fix a bug, I was given a build. Am I supposed to take a vote from all the people involved, or read minds? | 11:40 |
| wwoods | but bug 452799 seemed to say that *everyone* with encrypted root filesystems would be hosed | 11:40 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=452799 low, low, ---, Ray Strode, ASSIGNED , segfault in libdevmapper booting with encrypted root + plymouth | 11:40 |
| halfline | well wwoods asked for my opinion and i gave it | 11:41 |
| halfline | anyway, no big deal either way. it's easy to untag if it causes problems and if it doesn't cause problems the alpha will be better | 11:41 |
| f13 | can we move on yet? | 11:41 |
| wwoods | we've tagged the files, so let's move on | 11:41 |
| wwoods | and now we know it won't be terrible if we need to untag. | 11:42 |
| halfline | my only concerns are | 11:42 |
| halfline | 1) someone tests it before release 2) someone updates the release notes if it works | 11:42 |
| wwoods | yeah, alindebe and f13 and I will take care of 1 | 11:42 |
| wwoods | and one of us will take 2) | 11:43 |
| wwoods | once we've tested. | 11:43 |
| halfline | sweet | 11:43 |
| f13 | wwoods: speaking of moving on, the iso I just booted from .5 does indeed fix the graphical isolinux | 11:43 |
| wwoods | so I think that covers all the known bugs on the trackers | 11:43 |
| wwoods | f13: hot! mark it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457144 | 11:43 |
| buggbot | Bug 457144: low, low, ---, Anaconda Maintenance Team, MODIFIED , No graphical menu from isolinux on F10Alpha media | 11:43 |
| f13 | and ppc has boot.iso | 11:43 |
| wwoods | callooh callay | 11:43 |
| wwoods | do we know what (if anything) we need to do for gdm / LiveCD stuff? | 11:44 |
| wwoods | oh, I forgot a bug: bug 456424 | 11:45 |
| buggbot | Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=456424 high, high, ---, Control Center Maintainer, NEW , gnome-appearance-properties failed to start | 11:45 |
| wwoods | I'm almost positive that's fixed | 11:45 |
| wwoods | so we won't worry about it | 11:45 |
| wwoods | so, okay, we'll figure out what to do with gdm after we retest some stuff and talk to gdm folks and after I get a bagel or something | 11:46 |
| wwoods | anything else to discuss for alpha? | 11:46 |
| f13 | wwoods: there is a new gdm to test/tag | 11:46 |
| wwoods | f13: rad. okay then. | 11:48 |
| wwoods | that should cover the whole tracker list | 11:48 |
| wwoods | huzzah, etc. | 11:48 |
| f13 | whee | 11:49 |
| wwoods | there's some rawhide badness that I'm trying to work out | 11:49 |
| f13 | so the .5 tree is minus mkinitrd/plymouth and gdm | 11:49 |
| f13 | those are the only extra things to consider for .6 | 11:49 |
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| wwoods | ...that we know of. | 11:49 |
| * wwoods fingers crossed | 11:50 | |
| wwoods | f13: any ETA on a public tree? would we wait for .6 for that? | 11:50 |
| f13 | either that or for mmcgrath to work out the compose host in PHX issues | 11:50 |
| f13 | oh the public mashing would be missing those packages as well | 11:51 |
| f13 | public mash should be done around 4~ this afternoon | 11:51 |
| f13 | that people coudl compose against | 11:51 |
| f13 | (minus mkinitrd/plymouth/gdm) | 11:51 |
| wwoods | alright - drop a URL in #fedora-qa when it's ready | 11:52 |
| wwoods | we'll keep working on testing | 11:52 |
| wwoods | make notes of bugs in the test results page and we'll summarize that stuff for the release notes tomorrow | 11:52 |
| wwoods | if there's nothing else...? | 11:53 |
| wwoods | okay then! kapow, meeting over | 11:54 |
| wwoods | back to testing! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestResults/Fedora10Install/Alpha | 11:54 |
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