| wwoods | so, hi! QA meeting will start in ~5min | 11:02 |
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| wwoods | if you're here for that, say hi | 11:02 |
| wwoods | I was hoping Test2 would be out by now. Alas. | 11:03 |
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| BobJensen | Hey wwoods | 11:05 |
| wwoods | poelcat: ping | 11:06 |
| wwoods | BobJensen: howdy, man | 11:06 |
| poelcat | wwoods: pong | 11:06 |
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| wwoods | poelcat: hey dude. Are you going to be on the RHTS call later today? | 11:06 |
| poelcat | wwoods: yes | 11:07 |
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| wwoods | poelcat: okay cool. I'm supposed to talk about some plans for beaker | 11:07 |
| poelcat | wwoods: sounds good :) | 11:08 |
| wwoods | so we might talk about that a bit here, if people are interested | 11:08 |
| poelcat | wwoods: is there any "advanced reading material?" | 11:08 |
| wwoods | I'm not sure what you mean by "advanced" in this context | 11:09 |
| Bob-Laptop | I am interested buut a little distracted with *work day* | 11:09 |
| wwoods | yeah, understandable | 11:11 |
| wwoods | Bob-Laptop: have you been messing with rawhide at all? any questions, anything to report? | 11:11 |
| wwoods | I've got a couple interesting notes - apparently trying a yum update can *really* screw you up | 11:11 |
| Bob-Laptop | wwoods: No I am finishing up a project on the hardware I run rawhide on hopefully today | 11:11 |
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| wwoods | Bob-Laptop: cool! well, Test2 is actually fairly easy to install, although there was reportedly a bug installing | 11:13 |
| the Development tools on x86_64/ppc64 | ||
| wwoods | but there's a workaround updates.img for it already in the tree | 11:13 |
| wwoods | so it shouldn't effect anyone.. we hope | 11:13 |
| wwoods | I was unable to reproduce it, so... yeah | 11:14 |
| Bob-Laptop | this is an older x86 box so I don't expect problems plus with several hundred or thousand installs under my | 11:14 |
| belt not much slows me down other than total breakage | ||
| wwoods | anyway, as always, the install test matrix is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/7/Test2TreeTesting | 11:15 |
| wwoods | I've got a test matrix (of sorts) for the proposed features: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/7/FeatureMatrix | 11:15 |
| wwoods | I'll probably make a copy of that so we can track Test2's progress | 11:15 |
| wwoods | so yes, go forth and test test2, report results on the list or in #fedora-qa | 11:18 |
| wwoods | two other things I want to mention: | 11:18 |
| wwoods | Karsten Wade (quaid) is kicking around a slightly friendlier web page for Guided Bug Reporting | 11:19 |
| wwoods | basically it'll be some shortcuts through the process - e.g. "for suspend/resume problems, go here" will link | 11:19 |
| directly to the right place for bugs for that | ||
| wwoods | I'll send out a link and ask for comments on the mailing list (I can't find the page right now) | 11:20 |
| wwoods | lastly, Beaker - the roadmap is stalled from sometime in October of last year | 11:21 |
| wwoods | and actually a bunch of the roadmap items are still good (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Beaker) | 11:21 |
| wwoods | but, basically, I think we're not getting much of anywhere with it because tests are harder to write than they need | 11:22 |
| to be, and there's not much payoff | ||
| wwoods | there's no public-facing results server, nothing you could set up like that on a home machine, etc. | 11:23 |
| wwoods | so I think our next step will be to define a simple, common API/format for test results, and build a simple (and | 11:24 |
| nice-looking) results server | ||
| wwoods | so when you run tests, Stuff Happens and it looks nice. | 11:24 |
| wwoods | So yeah, I think removing some of the friction of test-writing and having obvious payoff when you run a test (and | 11:27 |
| thus a reason to submit tests to the Big Test System) will be awesome | ||
| wwoods | that's really all I wanted to talk about right now | 11:27 |
| wwoods | anyone here have stuff they want to talk about? | 11:27 |
| wwoods | automated testing, general QA, bugzilla stuff, triage, whatever? | 11:27 |
| kanarip | automated testing, yeah | 11:27 |
| kanarip | we've build scripts to load vmware guests with our re-spins and live-spins, but i need some way to collect the | 11:28 |
| results | ||
| kanarip | so my first question would be: if i place a test.sh in the media root, how can i copy it to the filesystem so it | 11:28 |
| is available after the reboot? | ||
| kanarip | i don't quite understand the chroot and nochroot, i can't get my finger behind it either | 11:29 |
| wwoods | oh, in kickstart? chroot means "run this inside the system you just installed" | 11:29 |
| wwoods | and nochroot means "run this in the installer's environment" | 11:29 |
| wwoods | so if you wanted to copy something from the media root to the installed system | 11:30 |
| wwoods | you'd need nochroot | 11:30 |
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| wwoods | the installed system will be under /mnt/sysimage, I think? | 11:30 |
| kanarip | so a %post with --nochroot, does a cp -a /test.sh /mnt/sysimage/ ? | 11:30 |
| kanarip | then, is there anyway to get the messages from during the install to be saved on the system's filesystem? | 11:31 |
| wwoods | yeah, that would put it on the root of the installed system | 11:31 |
| wwoods | kanarip: sure, in SNAKE I have a %post script that does that | 11:31 |
| kanarip | can i have that script? | 11:31 |
| wwoods | http://paste.ausil.us/121 | 11:32 |
| wwoods | that's with nochroot | 11:32 |
| wwoods | it saves the anaconda logs to /root/snake | 11:32 |
| kanarip | nice | 11:32 |
| wwoods | (also a list of files in /tmp, as you see) | 11:34 |
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| kanarip | what is the shell at that time, btw? | 11:34 |
| kanarip | /bin/sh ? | 11:34 |
| wwoods | yes | 11:34 |
| wwoods | you can tell kickstart to use a different shell, if you like | 11:35 |
| wwoods | but IIRC it defaults to /bin/sh | 11:35 |
| kanarip | that should suffice | 11:35 |
| kanarip | ok great | 11:35 |
| kanarip | i'll go with this for now | 11:36 |
| kanarip | thanks ;-) | 11:36 |
| wwoods | I think you could do, for instance, %post --interpreter=/usr/bin/python | 11:37 |
| wwoods | anyway, no problem | 11:37 |
| wwoods | anyone else? | 11:37 |
| wwoods | okay then - meeting adjourned | 11:40 |
| wwoods | thanks people! | 11:42 |
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