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| * jlaska | 10:03 | |
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| f13 | I have to head out in 30~ | 10:04 |
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| wwoods | that's OK, I want to keep it quick | 10:05 |
| wwoods | because - yay! installable rawhide! | 10:05 |
| f13 | maybe? | 10:06 |
| wwoods | well, bootable anyway | 10:06 |
| wwoods | the only agenda item I have is this: automating rawhide sanity tests / smoke tests | 10:06 |
| -!- wwoods changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora QA Metting - Automated rawhide sanity/smoke tests | 10:07 | |
| wwoods | so here's the deal. there's a lot of times that we produce a rawhide tree that has unusable images | 10:07 |
| f13 | yes | 10:07 |
| wwoods | like /init can't run because of missing glibc | 10:07 |
| wwoods | or udevinfo doesn't run in stage 2 | 10:08 |
| wwoods | testing those things is pretty easy: chroot, ldd /bin init | 10:08 |
| wwoods | or chroot, udevinfo -e | 10:08 |
| wwoods | and so on | 10:08 |
| wwoods | so hey - there should be a whole series of post-build tests for buildinstall | 10:09 |
| wwoods | to confirm that the tree might actually be usable | 10:09 |
| wwoods | assuming all those pass.. we should attempt some installs into VMs | 10:09 |
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| wwoods | that bit is trickier (i've been reading up on virsh to figure out how to make "snake-install-kvm") | 10:10 |
| wwoods | but yeah - that's what I'm planning to focus on for the next week or so | 10:10 |
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| wwoods | questions/comments/suggestions? | 10:11 |
| f13 | do they go in buildinstall itself, or do they go into whatever is calling buildinstall, or do they go into... | 10:12 |
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| wwoods | f13: they'll get developed as separate tools initially | 10:13 |
| wwoods | I kinda think it should be part of buildinstall | 10:13 |
| wwoods | on the one hand, that's more maintenance for anaconda devs | 10:14 |
| wwoods | on the other hand, if it works like it's supposed to, it should increase the quality of buildinstall output | 10:14 |
| wwoods | which.. is kind of the point of QA | 10:14 |
| wwoods | heh | 10:14 |
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| wwoods | OTOH I don't really want to write post-build sanity tests in Piles O' Shell | 10:15 |
| wwoods | but it should probably go into the anaconda source tree, like good unit tests | 10:16 |
| f13 | well, to be fair, the long term plan is that scripts/ moves out of anaconda | 10:17 |
| f13 | and likely into pungi | 10:17 |
| wwoods | f13: oh nice | 10:17 |
| f13 | we could take that opportunity to rewrite them, but eh... | 10:17 |
| wwoods | well, perhaps this stuff will end up in pungi. for now I'll develop it outside | 10:18 |
| wwoods | I'll try to make it modular.. so piece 1 pulls images and such, and piece 2 assumes you have images and whatnot and operates on them | 10:18 |
| wwoods | when it gets integrated into buildinstall or pungi we can chuck piece 1 | 10:18 |
| wwoods | jlaska: can I ask you a favor? can you do some install tests on today's rawhide (and/or see if you can get rwilliams to help) | 10:19 |
| * wwoods WFH today due to busted car | 10:19 | |
| jlaska | wwoods: I'll toss it through KATE ... but there are schedule conflicts right now w/ 5.2 :( | 10:19 |
| f13 | I'll do some testing when I get back from my speaking engagement | 10:20 |
| jlaska | is there an up2date internal location for rawhide trees? | 10:20 |
| wwoods | jlaska: gromit | 10:20 |
| wwoods | check the snake-server on metroid for URLs | 10:21 |
| jlaska | is the official spot no longer official (ntap-curly.corp.redhat.com:/vol/fedora/rawhide) | 10:21 |
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| f13 | jlaska: not right now | 10:21 |
| f13 | jlaska: I have to get that wired back up, and that's going ot involve some... guess work | 10:22 |
| f13 | for now, gromit. | 10:22 |
| wwoods | that was the second-hop location; gromit is the master | 10:22 |
| wwoods | which sucks for KATE, which wants NFS access to everything | 10:22 |
| wwoods | but that's why snake is around | 10:22 |
| wwoods | really I just confirmation - one manual test on bare metal | 10:23 |
| * wwoods installing in KVM over remote X | 10:23 | |
| f13 | wwoods: I'm doing the same (: | 10:24 |
| jlaska | | Fedora development ppc (20080227) # | | 10:24 |
| jlaska | ? | 10:24 |
| jlaska | wwoods ^^^ | 10:24 |
| wwoods | jlaska: yep | 10:24 |
| jlaska | what services does gromit offer (just http and ftp)? | 10:25 |
| jlaska | or does it host nfs as well? | 10:25 |
| wwoods | just http and ftp | 10:25 |
| jlaska | hrmm | 10:25 |
| f13 | there is wallace too | 10:25 |
| wwoods | wallace does rsync of the same bits | 10:25 |
| jlaska | I'm not fully versed in the syncing process ... but the ntap-curly.corp stuff was very helpful as it could be mounted on any [snake-]server and provide http, ftp, and nfs | 10:26 |
| jlaska | f13: I know there's lots of hiccups and bumps in the process, right? | 10:26 |
| f13 | there were | 10:27 |
| f13 | it's a lot smoother now, as we're generating the content in PHX, adn then rsyncing it directly to the netapp in PHX | 10:27 |
| f13 | snapmirror takes care of bringing it back to RDU | 10:27 |
| f13 | the only hangup is discovering when snapmirror has finished the sync and somehow triggering an rsync to populate /vol/fedora/rawhide/ | 10:27 |
| f13 | on my list to accomplish this week | 10:28 |
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| jlaska | f13: ah gotcha, yeah that's what you mentioned before I think | 10:28 |
| jlaska | f13: sorry, I wish I knew more about the process so I could offer something ressembling a helpful comment ;) | 10:28 |
| * jlaska likes bits | 10:28 | |
| f13 | heh | 10:28 |
| f13 | boy, getting stage 2 is taking a while. | 10:29 |
| f13 | wwoods: jlaska: in the next couple days, the really important tests to me are going to be installability of default, and also any broken deps found or conflicts | 10:30 |
| f13 | I want to get those resolved before we freeze next week | 10:30 |
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| f13 | ok, I gotta jet | 10:31 |
| wwoods | yeah, that's the target | 10:31 |
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| wwoods | seeya | 10:31 |
| wwoods | so, yes, getting buildinstall to run reliably (and getting better info on its output) is the main priority | 10:32 |
| -!- wwoods changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora QA Meeting | 10:32 | |
| wwoods | anything else people want to discuss, or should we just get down on testin' rawhide? | 10:33 |
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| jlaska | +---------------+ Error +----------------+ | 10:33 |
| jlaska | | | | 10:33 |
| jlaska | | Unable to retrieve the install image. | | 10:33 |
| wwoods | missing ppc images or something? | 10:34 |
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| jlaska | I think the images are there ... but there may be an issue loop mounting it | 10:35 |
| wwoods | worth a ccloser look, I guess | 10:36 |
| wwoods | i386 in kvm is installing happily | 10:36 |
| wwoods | oh - is there a template for http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestResults/Fedora9Install/Alpha | 10:36 |
| wwoods | so we can easily set up a page for Beta when the time comes? | 10:36 |
| jlaska | definitely | 10:37 |
| wwoods | rockin' | 10:37 |
| jlaska | I didn't moin template it yet .. .but that should be easy | 10:37 |
| wwoods | cool! well, there's some time yet | 10:39 |
| wwoods | but yeah. awesome. | 10:39 |
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| wwoods | alright, anything else we should discuss? | 10:40 |
| wwoods | otherwise I'm gonna look into getting a coffee and/or a ride to the office | 10:40 |
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